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    ABS sensors - mega rip off

    Although you can still grab the last remaining remnants of front ABS sensors, the rears have been gone for a while now. I was trawling around looking at ABS options, including bespoke ones, and there are still a few rears out their from companies like Standard who retail cheap auto parts, cough. Advertised at over US$600. Crazy world when most sensors retail around 40. I'm fortunate as I have a spare second hand set. Hopefully this will be one item that Toyota bring back if their heritage parts ever get going. It'd be remiss not to support a safety feature service part after all.

    I'm surprised there are no Chinese knock offs appearing especially when you see the price of these things. One day we might all end up running around without our 7.5A fuses. I know of a few sets being hoarded by owners, seems they aren't yet worth their weight in gold, but soon could be.

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    I think we perhaps need to see more fail before the price goes anywhere? They seem to very reliable......but if you do need one as you say it might be tough.
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    Would be worth looking into the availability of Soarer items, maybe sc430 items would work too?

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    I would like traction control. But I don't have ABS. I've been looking at new types of sensors.

    Is the Supra ABS system, using a passive sensor? I think it is.

    I'm tempted to try and make a retrofit kit for the output of the sensor, for the Syvecs to pick up.

    Suppose you'd only need to replicate the sensor signal as per the original and it would validate as a replacement also.

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    The mk1 aristo sensors are the same front and rear as the hubs are the same but the wire lengths are different and the connectors are different too so they would need swapping over.

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    I had to change the two fronts on mine a couple of years back. Cost 500 as you say they aren't cheap but if they last another 25 years it's fine by me.

    With the Toyota heritage scheme coming in, in the future hopefully problems like this won't be so much of an issue

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    knowing Toyota I would bet my bottom dollar that this would work as a rear replacement sensor https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ABS-Speed...YAAOSw46hbGALq
    I have used plugs from various Toyotas cam plugs are the same across practically every Toyota which would leed me to believe you could use the sensor in some applications, why would you research and develop something you already have that works
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    check out this rav 4 one look very similar , I know I would possibly waste 25 before 250 on the same part https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-ABS-S....c100005.m1851
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    This is a stock one 20190826_101250.jpg
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    I have a celica one I am going to try, again looks very similar, and cost me about 25. My faults codes give me 2 that have failed. I only found out after I noticed the wire had been cut and very badly joined behind the dash.
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    Seeing the Lexus 300's up to 2002 used the same knuckle as the Supra you'd imagine the 300 series sensors have got to be the same fitment and they do look the same. You can get ES300 front and rear ABS sensors from US$13 which look identical apart from being shorter. It doesn't seem justifiable or reasonable that a bit of extra wire adds $100's to the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffsplace View Post
    I have a celica one I am going to try, again looks very similar, and cost me about 25. My faults codes give me 2 that have failed. I only found out after I noticed the wire had been cut and very badly joined behind the dash.
    it gives you a fault of 2 failing because iirc they are linked diagonally across the car so front right is also linked to back left ect.
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    A lot of aftermarket ECU's expect and demand a square wave from the wheel speed sensors and the stock ones give a sine wave. I used to be able to get converters but they dried up. I have a box of components to build my own sine to square wave converters but no time to complete a batch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Wilson View Post
    A lot of aftermarket ECU's expect and demand a square wave from the wheel speed sensors and the stock ones give a sine wave. I used to be able to get converters but they dried up. I have a box of components to build my own sine to square wave converters but no time to complete a batch.

    http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthr...ight=sine+wave
    Chris, what else is needed in order to finish the batch.

    Any electronic assembly work or just part collecting?

    I'd be interested to complete the work and trial an installation.

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